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Dec 4, 2012 7:00pm EST
into a civil war. did president obama disspeaker john boehner in a comment today. >> on the conservative side of the republican party today. with senator demint speaking on the idea that $800 billion of tax increases were offered. but he got the backing of mitch mcconnel. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i think it sis important tha the house leadership is trying to mov move it forward. i had hoped that we would be accomplishing more in the real talks. but i can tell you, there is nothing going on privately that is not going on publicly. even as he has to deal with this rebellion. he has to deal with democrats and harry reid's comments today give you a sense of where they are coming from. >> they have to come up with specific revenue. and they refuse to do that. it is a simple question of arithmetic. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. so as you know in washington, a rebellion in the ranks like this could be a problem. but in the spohort-term, if it remains constrained. it could be a good negotiating term. he could say i have offered everything that i have and
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Dec 3, 2012 7:00pm EST
again it solely is because it doesn't raise tax rates on the rich. when is obama going to rise above that obsession? when will he lose that over rich people and tax rates? i don't know. tonight, i'm is going to try to call his bluff. anyway, also breaking tonight, potential catastrophe if syria uses its chemical weapons. president obama issues a stern warning to syria and i quote the world is watching. and there will be consequences if syria uses these wmds. have we just committed ourselves to another war? and the gun control debate is squarely back in the spotlight tonight after the murder/suicide by nfl player in kansas city, second amendment instead of blaming the sick people who use them. republicans have responded to a fiscal cliff counter offer to president obama. eamon javers joins us now from washington with all the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. leapt me walk you through the specifics or at least what specifics we have so far from this boehner counter offer and you can see where it falls short from the white house's perspective right in the top line take a
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 7:00pm EST
report." president obama goes before business leaders and says "we could get this done in a week" when it comes to the fiscal cliff. but tim geithner just told cnbc that we're going to go over the cliff unless tax rates go up. at the same time, two dozen republican house members signed a bipartisan letter with democrats defecting from the boehner plan. in the meantime, a nice game for the day for the dow, but a stunning selloff for apple. do you know what? fiscal cliff or not, the s&p 500 is up 12% year to date. that is a handsome gain for investors, an optimistic year, believe it or not. and we already bailed out detroit's auto industry. but now, at least one motown politician is telling president obama he should bail out detroit bankrupt city government, too. this sure isn't the free market, and i asked why should a texas taxpayer bail out detroit? >>> breaking news from syria, and it is a blockbuster. the assad regime is walking and loading its chemical weapons, ready to use them on its own people. nbc's chief pentagon correspondent joins us now. jim, is this the red line president
CNBC
Dec 6, 2012 7:00pm EST
evening, everyone. i'm larry kudlow. this is "the kudlow report." the talks are back on. team obama and team boehner are back at the negotiating table. but there is still substantial disagreement on tax rates, tax revenues, domestic spending and entitlement reform and the clock is ticking. speaking of tax hikes, europe's grand experiment with taxing the rich more is falling apart, especially in france and britain. and here at home, california and new york are passing through the 50% tax rate barrier. is anybody looking at how tax hikes fail the test of economic growth? >>> back here in the u.s., could it be michigan which used to call itself the worker's paradise union state is now moving towards new anti-union right-to-work legislation and it looks like it's going to pass? but first up, budget talks resume between speaker john boehner and president obama today. with just 25 days to go, let's keep tabs on where we stand. reports of a conservative backlash against speaker boehner simply not true. he has the solid support of his leadership and the rank and file. but there is concern a
CNBC
Dec 7, 2012 7:00pm EST
president obama has wasted another week by not making a real proposal. meanwhile, republicans are divided and senator rand paul on this show last night may have made the most constructive proposal of all. >> i'm happy not to filibuster it. i will announce tonight on your show i will work with harry reid to let him pass his big old tax hike with a simple majority if that's what harry reid wants. then they will be the party of high taxes and they can own it. >> all right. without that kind of republican strategic retreat, the december 31st deadline is not likely to be met. in today's jobs report it was positive and it beat the street and stocks went up. how do we move 150,000 jobs per month up to 300,000 which would be a real recovery? first up breaking news out of the supreme court this afternoon, the nation's highest court agreed to take up the explosive issue of same-sex marriage, agreeing to hear challenges to the federal defense of marriage act and california's proposition 8. nbc's pete williams joins us now from washington with all the latest details. good evening, pete. >> reporter:
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 4:00am EST
to be for the rising movie industry. cet will head out to washington as president obama is pushing forward his tax for the wealthy agenda. george osbourne is going to update today. the chancellor will have his work cut out to meet his target of eradicating the federal deficit by 2015 as well as securing a fall to gdp ratio. also expected further pressure with a cut to its growth forecast. steve is braving rather inclement british winter weather outside the houses of parliament. >> lovely. >> i know you like it. how much is it going to be raining on george osbourne's parade? >> it's going to rain on his parade. you just nailed it, ross. three things which are going to come up today, which he has very little control over. one is that obr reckoning on the uk economy. thought only back in march it was going to grow -- pain a negative growth for the year. next year they thought it was going to be 2% growth. it's probably only going to be 1%. in terms of those two targets you mentioned, eradicating the structural deficit in a five-year period, that's going to have another couple of years. >> right. now,
CNBC
Dec 4, 2012 1:00pm EST
much. the stakes are getting higher. state governors meeting with president obama to express their fears about the fiscal cliff while both sides squabble. we are going to get an expert lesson from a best-selling author on the art of getting deals done. investors are getting ready for friday's crucial employment report. so where are the jobs right now who is hiring? who is creating them in the face of the fiscal cliff? we have got the answers and they may surprise you. >>> and let the debate begin. it's a little fuzzy, roll the tape. there you go a new study says high-speed trading on wall street is hurting the small investor and even puts a price tag on exactly how much the little guy is getting killed. you know they're talking about that one, sue, down at the new york stock exchange. how are you doing, sue? >> great, ty. indeed they are talking about that and we are going to talk bhort exact numbers on that study in just a few minutes. stocks are steady. talks continuing in washington. we are just down about 12 points on the dow jones industrial average, 27 days until americ
CNBC
Dec 3, 2012 4:00am EST
. they admitted that there has to be some revenue. meanwhile the obama team led by secretary geithner are comfortable with at least 2:1 what they would call entitlement cuts. so there was a lot of ground for a deal. unfortunately, i think the threats from some democratic leaders that maybe it's okay to go over the fiscal cliff, i'm worried some actually believe that and that's one thing that scares me. i think there's a deal on the table, get a few years deal, it's only if -- obviously the republican caucus could do something stupid, but owes otherwise my main word is the dems decide they want to play for a long term deal that it all has to be resolved right now and it's worth the risk and i don't think it's worth the risk. >> adam, always good to see you. thank you very much indeed. we move on, stay in the united states, strike at the port of los angeles long beach is entering its seventh day and some analysts fear it could cost the u.s. economy $1 billion a day. it means lost business for truckers and others who rely on the port for their livelihood. combined they are the nation's b
CNBC
Dec 6, 2012 6:00am EST
at this point are up 1.20. $1659 and ounce. >> wonder what boehner and obama talked about on the phone. i think it went something like this. your mother! no, your mother. no, your mother. and then it went back and forth. your mother to infinity. >> no, i think what happened is we realize that there's been an awful lot of theatrics. >> you don't think they said your mother? >> no. >> you don't think they hurled insults at each other? >> no. >> actually, boehner was just a dial tone. you said i'm supposed to do what to myself? no, that's not boehner. >> on the economic front, i guess there are things going on. more employment data on the way. tomorrow the big jobs report and then there was the issue of the fiscal cliff. 11,000 in citigroup. i wonder if we start seeing things before next year. people are not hiring people. >> and we've talked a lot about this, ceos have already had to make their plans known to their boards. so it's had its impact. >> getner says the obama administration is only too willing to go over the qulif. cliff. do they mean marginal rates, or just rates. >> that's what's go
CNBC
Dec 4, 2012 4:00pm EST
was ready to make some deal on taxes with president obama. that's a sign to me that he's going to clear the decks to try to push through a deal. it's a sign that we're going get some kind of tax increases for the top 2%. i don't know where those numbers are going to be. pretty clear to me that a deal is in the works and we're heading in that direction. what i'm not sure of is whether the market will go up on this, necessarily. >> in terms of that january effect, bob, does that even matter this year? >> yes, look, it's not long from anybody, january and february are the best months of the year. that's a factor. >> let me ask you about putting money to work, keith springer. you say we're going to get a deal regardless. we may get a deal regardless, but that deal means probably higher taxes and lower spending. what are the areas in the economy in your view that get impacted most by a deal? >> well with, we're going to have less spending in the economy next year, which is going to slow down growth, which is where a bear market will come in, but not right away. there's so much negative senti
CNBC
Dec 7, 2012 4:00pm EST
do we do? if you were advising president obama, what would you do right now? what would you advise? >> well, he didn't call me, but if he had -- >> really? >> surprise. >> i would tell -- to be honest, i would tell him to take a few lessons from his defeated challenger. what i would do is i would focus primarily on four things. i would say, one, we need to get a better tax code, a much more pro-growth, pro-markets, pro-jobs tax code. we need to encourage economic trade with other countries. i mean really significant economic trade. one of the things i will give president obama credit for is he was able to get through the three free trade agreements that were negotiated by president bush at the end of his term and did not go through congress until president obama did that later on in his term. that's commendable. i'd like to see a lot more of that. the third would be a much more cautious dwrie regulation, the kind of regulation that actually works. more of a cost benefit analysis approach. the fourth is spending control. we jumped from 21% of gdp to 25% of gdp in spending in one yea
CNBC
Dec 6, 2012 1:00pm EST
in the united states. >> let's say our constitution was a little different and barack obama called you in tomorrow and said, get everybody out of china and do whatever you have to do, make these, make everything you make in the united states. what would that do to the price of this device? >> i honestly -- it's not so much about price, it's about the skills, et cetera. over time there are skills that are associated with manufacturing that have left the u.s. not necessarily people but the education stops producing them. >> that's sad. how do we get that back? sbl well, it is a concerted effort to get them back. with this project that i've talked about where we will do a mac in the united states next year? i think this is a really good another step for us. the consumer electronics world was really never here. so it is not a matter of bringing it back, it is a matter of starting it here. >> good morning. thanks for joining us here. >> reporter: while steve jobs liked to avoid the spotlight, he also thrived on it. it was as if he was selling products that were pieces of his own soul. he wa
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 6:00am EST
this morning, but let's start with that big story that joe was just talking about. president obama speaking to the business round table today, attending to the group's quarterly meeting of ceos. jim mcnerny says including meaningful and comprehensive tax and entitlement reforms. this is the number one story that we've been talking about every morning here since the election. fiscal cliff, big, big issue. there are now, it seems, growing numbers of people on both the right and the left who would like to see us just go over that fiscal cliff. how big of a problem would that be? >> that would be a big problem. i actually still believe that those -- the democrats, the administration, republicans in the final analysis don't want to see that happen. they do understand that not only would that present a problem in the near term as we went over the cliff at the end of the year, but we still then have the whole debt ceiling fight that would transpire shortly into the new year. the issue isn't simply the negative result of going over the cliff, but it's also that business, consumers, everybody contin
CNBC
Dec 2, 2012 7:30pm EST
. president obama's initial offer on the fiscal cliff was resoundingly rejected by republicans. it included a $1.6 trillion tax increase, double what he campaigned on. also included $400 billion in entitlement cuts eliminating the need for congressional approval to a raise the debt ceiling. the markets rebounded later in the week following the latest hopes on a fiscal cliff agreement. america's economy grew at a faster pace than initially expected in the third quarter of the year. the second reading of the gross domestic product showed it at rate of 2.7% spurred by stronger inventories and exports. the securities and exchange commission is looking for a new chairman. mary shapirp schapiro announcin she will step down after nearly four years on the job. the obama administration says it will announce a replacement in the near future. >>> starbucks has a new way to spend a lot of money. it is introducing the most expensive blend made from a rare costa rican variety named geisha. it is $7 a cup and only available in 48 stores. if you order one, drink it slowly and enjoy every sip. >>> is the fi
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Dec 4, 2012 4:00am EST
to avoid the year end fiscal cliff. >>> and president obama is meeting with a group u.s. governors today around 10:00 a.m. eastern. it includes jack markell, mary fallon, scott walker. the governors will discuss how the fiscal cliff will impact their states and possible solutions. it's also expected to meet with house republicans, as well, this week. >>> and oracle is amongst the latest of speeding up their dividend pay outs to avoid possible tax hikes because of the fiscal cliff. they will pay dividends a total of 18 cents a share for the next three quarters. larry ellison didn't take part in the decision, but he will benefit. he own as 23% stake in the company, so he'll receive around $198 million. yes, you heard it right. oracle stock down 0.8% despite that in frankfurt. still to come, interest rates in australia are moving down. down under. find out what central bank is worried about when we come back. >>> australia central bank held its rate setting meeting. matthew taylor has the details. >> the market had been pricing in a 25 basis point rate cut and the reserve bank delivered wit
CNBC
Dec 3, 2012 6:00am EST
's the times today, obama's end to giving in. there's a big piece in the journal also about that quoting all these leading democrats saying the president has to hold firm this final they're tieing a whole four years to this, the way this goes, so goes the next four years. so far he's under enormous pressure to stand pat. and boehner i think is under even more enormous pressure because a lot of people see boehner if the house as the last best hope for a voiding what a lot of people think is a calamity. >> but leadership isn't calling the other side names. i think when you talk about the big four, boehner, reid, pelosi -- >> no, not them. >> obama is on the legislative branch. we have to give him a break on that. but there are four big people. those four people couldn't be more inept. >> it's boehner -- the mcconnell and pelosi and reid have nothing to do with what's going on between boehner and obama. >> to some extent that's true. >> reid is the guy that pushed obama to extend the bush tax rates in 2010. so reid would i suspect -- >> i'm starting to like him more. i thought of him as senator
CNBC
Dec 4, 2012 6:00am EST
of this conversation. >> obama doesn't listen to him at this point. do you see how this is on? it's as tenuous as the talks themselves. leechb one way or the other, it falls off. anything the slightest movement respect, and the cliff -- we're not rising above. you're getting a hum on my microphone? i'm fine. the audio guy. interrupts the show to tell me there is a hum and there isn't a hum. >> i appreciate that. also senator harry reid says that republicans need to, quote, get serious. both sides are saying this, both sides -- a lot of kabuke theater. >> everyone got disgusted. nobody needs that image. >> the fiscal cliff will certainly be one of the main topics of discussion when president obama meets with some of the nation's governors today. actually i think they're meeting with vice president biden. then governors will be meeting with some of the congressional leadership, as well. but you guys are watching this, we know this is drama and theater. do you think a deal gets struck at the end of the day? >> i do. i have to say, i still think we'll get a last minute deal. i just cannot imagine
CNBC
Dec 3, 2012 5:00pm EST
that in every speech he has made so far. there you see the obama offer in terms of what he has put on the table. he would like to see a bunch of new taxes particularly tax 92 creases, $960 billion and the key here is that what the president has offered in all told is $1.6 trillion in new tax revenues and what the speaker countered with today was $800 billion. you can see how far apart the two men are. there is a lot of negotiating to be done between here and there. >> what is your guesstimate on a counter? >> i think we have a counter at some point in the next couple of days. where they go in terms of those numbers i don't know because this would be the first time that either party has to move far off of its talking points. both parties made offers that are basically what the talking points are. now we get to the nitty-gritty. who is willing to show a little leg and compromise. >> quite a metaphor. >> whoa! >> you show a little leg. >> rise above, show a little leg. it's all the same. thank you. >> poor guy he is doing a serious report -- >> and then you guys chime in. >> the "fast money" hound
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 9:00am EST
will it cost you. we have the answer coming up. in a little more than an hour from now, president obama will address the fiscal cliff before ceos at the business roundtable. we'll bring you live coverage including the q & a session. as we head to break, look at movers on wall street. melons!!! oh yeah!! well that was uncalled for. folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy, ronny? happier than gallagher at a farmers' market. get happy. get geico. chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 this morning, i'm going to trade in hong kong. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 after that, it's on to germany. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 then tonight, i'm trading 9500 miles away in japan. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 with the new global account from schwab, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i hunt down opportunities around the world tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 as if i'm right there. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and i'm in total control because i can trade tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 directly online in 12 markets in their local
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Dec 6, 2012 9:00am EST
energy markets. the obama administration has said the study will be central to the decision on whether to export. he said exporting the gas would be a bigger impact on the economy. >> slap in the face of dow chemical. of coke, not coke the beverage company. but this was something that was hotly disputed within the romney campaign. he really let this stuff go because the romney campaign had some very big givers that were chemical companies. >> do we know, say, very bad, how much will prices conceivableably go up if we become an exporter of natural gas? is it that great a difference? >> we burn offer more natural gas than we use. burn off, in other words literally, you see those flames, we flare more than we use. so we got a real excess of this stuff. >> the government says that the -- 6.6% of current u.s. consumption. >> why would prices move that dramatically at all? wouldn't they just come down globally? >> the average, our $16 goes to $4. it costs $7 to get stuff from the united states. >> you should argue that they should go down because they went be the only one. dominion has brooi
CNBC
Dec 7, 2012 4:00am EST
week long silence as that deadline looms. president obama and boehner spoke by phone on wednesday. they promised to renew the negotiations. several top executives have also weighed in on thursday. >> there's been some movement. everybody realizes there has to be a revenue component, spend component, entitlement reform component. >> patrick, where does it hang on now for you? clearly the president last decided there has to be tax rises for the wealthy. if the democratic side can come up with entitlement cuts, maybe we get a deal. >> i think this is pure political theater. this is a situation that was created 18 months ago in order for the politicians to get by the election. now they've done so. we still confront the same fiscal unsustainability here in the united states that's been evident to everybody for the the past five, six years. what we all recognize is we need more revenue, we needless spending, it's really a matter of a couple of adults getting in a room and figuring out how to resolve this temporary problem that they've created with an eye toward the long term on sustaina
CNBC
Dec 3, 2012 4:00pm EST
of the big problems we have is if you look at this president obama proposaproposal contains fiscal stimulus republicans object to. it will be hard to get fiscal stimulus through this year. monetary stimulus from the federal reserve is very much alive. >> absolutely. let me get your take on what we see happening here because we have breaking news on oracle. once again, more companies paying a dividend this year not waiting for next year because they want to be sure investors have a chance to get attacked at 15% capital gains tax or dividend tax as opposed to much higher because we know that taxes will probably go higher in 2013. oracle is accelerating payments of 2013 dif dens. they're going to pay second quarter, third quarter and fourth quarter dividends this month. gordon, what has that done to trading and investing environment? all these special dividends. oracle is doing it now, second quarter, third quarter dividends this month so investors can get taxed at the 2012 dividend rate. >> it's bigger than that because it's not only the corporation themselves but corporate executives. cashin
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Dec 4, 2012 12:00pm EST
about but, instead, just check out this chart. at the lowest level since president obama was re-elected. just now under that $1,700 mark. what's behind the sell-off and is this a buying opportunity? let's start talking futures now. let's start with you, you and rich have been bitten by the gold bug. are you ready to throw in the towel here? >> jackie, i'm not ready yet. usually when you see a day the dollar is as weak as it is, gold is higher. what's happening today is you're seeing a lot of profit taking on gold. it's not profit taking because we're up 9% on the year. traders are worried that some deal with the fiscal cliff will call for higher capital-gains taxes so traders are getting out of their gold positions before that might take effect. >> so profit taking, meantime, rich, what is dipping below the $1,700 mark mean? is that really the right level to be watching? >> well, we gave you the level $ $ $1,706. you're looking at $1,672. every trader will tell you it is a big level here, a close below that and there's more pain. in fact, let's watch today's close, in one hour,
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 5:00pm EST
that president obama had made earlier so i'm not sure how much a change in position this is as it is just explicitly stating the position of the administration. he also said that going over the -- a deal would not get done without a deal on the debt ceiling as well. finally the treasury secretary said the proposal from speaker boehner did represent some progress. >> i think we're making a little bit of progress. i mean, we're still some distance apart. they're clearly moving. they're trying to figure out how to move further. you've seen them acknowledge they're prepared to do $800 billion in higher taxes on part of the american economy. that's part of a balanced framework. that's definitely some progress. what we need to have them acknowledge is that the rates go up and if they're willing to accept that and commit to that as an agreement, then we think we can do something really good for the economy. >> what you have here is really the administration laying out the parameters of getting a deal done. it's going to be tax hikes on the wealthiest 2% going back to the bush tax cuts, although
CNBC
Dec 7, 2012 3:00pm EST
-on-one meeting with president barack obama. we don't know what they said, and we're in the era now of parsing every single word they do say publicly. nancy pelosi was out before cameras, although it's hard to get a lot of indication of what's going on with had statement. take a listen. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. >> and if you listened carefully to speaker john boehner, he did say that there was no progress to report, but he may have been hinting a little bit of where there's some room for a deal here if the president will just meet him maybe not even halfway. listen to the speaker. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue the president seeks on the table, but none of it's going to be possible. the president insists on his position, insists on my way or the highway. that's not the way to get to an agreement. >> so where are we now? i think we're basically at a point where speaker boehner might be willing to cave a little bit here, but he needs somethin
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Dec 5, 2012 1:00pm EST
of this negotiation. >> eamon javers, thank you. >>> john harwood has the latest on mr. obama's big meeting with some of those ceos. john? >> the other way the ceos are in the middle of this is the president appeared before the business roundtable today as part of his effort to continue rounding up support from various constituencies for what he calls a balanced approach. one of the things he pressed was a priority that the head of the business roundtable, john eng r engler, has suggested which is a longer term fix to the debt ceiling problem. remember that it was a catastrophic standoff in mid 2011 that caused the downgrade in u.s. credit. president said he's simply not going to negotiate in the negotiating process that results in the same kind of stand-off. here is the president. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation? which, by the way, we have never done in our history until we did it last year. i will not play that game because we've got to break that habit bef
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Dec 7, 2012 1:00pm EST
a press conference where he essentially said president obama has done nothing to compromise with republicans. here's the speaker. >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: not surprisingly, democratic house leader nancy pelosi had precisely the opposite explanation for what is behind this stalemate. she says republicans simply echoing the white house are going to have to buckle on the issue of the top rates. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. >> but tyler, as you suggested, this is all a work in progress. the thing we cannot see that is not visible to the public or to the press is what's going on behind the scenes. staff discussions resumed yesterday. don't know how fruitful. i haven
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Dec 3, 2012 2:00pm EST
. >>> happening right now as we speak, president obama is fielding twitter questions about the fiscal cliff. jackie deangelis is monitoring it for us. >> that's exactly right, mandy. as a matter of fact that session is now under way. it is part of the white house's my 2k twitter campaign. that refers to the more than $2,000 in extra taxes that the average american family is going to experience before the end of the year if we don't seem to find some compromise. so today the president is using twitter to interact with americans, no doubt to gain some support for his plan that would allow those cuts to extend of course with the exception for the wealthiest americans. earlier in the day president obama tweeted about this himself. he used the white house twitter account and said it's good to see a lot of folks on twitter speaking about extending the middle class tax cuts and that he'd be answering questions on the cliff at 2:00 p.m. of course we'll be monitoring that very closely and bring you the best interactions that we find. if you want to send a question to the president, all you have to d
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Dec 2, 2012 6:00am EST
gains as traders wait on washington. while everybody is watching boehner and obama duke it out, a flashing red warning sign emerging for the consumer. shares of yum brands taking a hit on the warning on the outlook for china. what does this mean for the other multinationals. let's get in the monday and find out. dan, this is much more than a single stock story because yum is looked at as a barometer for china growth. >> that's a great point. >> this year as mcdonald's was signaling that china was weakening, chipotle. this year domestically, we're starting to see sales trends weaken. yum was doing fantastically in both regions. yum gets it disproportionate from the sales. relative to the competitors in china. about 45%. and a lot of investors were wondering how these guys were bucking the trend for so long. to me this is a little curious. they just gave guidance on china sales on october 10th. to me they may have a bit of a credibility problem. the other one we were talking about is tiffany's. these are a tale of two cities. they have downgraded yesterday and that was also based
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Dec 3, 2012 9:00am EST
to be -- they are insensitive to the economy and they're a winner in obama care. 2014 begins and i'm picking numbers up. hca. even with this leverage. raising numbers, hca, 2014. i'm doing that right now. cramer firm is taking up numbers. >> you did it in your head. >> i did. i'm going to ask the sales force to go out with it and i think he can get the stock moving and by the end of the day i'll let retail investors know and they'll take institutions out -- >> wait until tomorrow. >> delay is better. don't make the call yet. >> that works well. >> hedge fund cliff. >> line two for you. >> when we come back this morning, the key to averting the fiscal cliff could come from a bipartisan group of senators called gang of eight. mark warner is coming here to post 9. one more look at futures. more "squawk on the street" is back after a break. if we want e our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest
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Dec 4, 2012 9:00am EST
you. >> sticking with the cliff, governors are set to meet with president obama and congressional leaders. the meeting coming one day after the white house rejected a republican plan for averting the cliff. chi chief washington correspondent john harwood is outside of the white house this morning. how do business leaders change the equation? >> reporter: the president is trying to orchestrate a consensus behind his approach to deficit reduction. this is a group part of the national governors association executive committee. a diverse group. he carried three states he represents and governors include scott walker, leader of conservative government reform movement going after public employee pensions and shrink government obligations that way. governors are pragmatic. the president is trying to make the case if you look at polls and revenue needs of the government and ageing of our population, the pragmatic thing to do is trim entitlements. the significance of speaker boehner's offer yesterday he put specifics on entitlements on the table. they are significant raising the medicare e
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Dec 6, 2012 4:00am EST
obama speaking by phone, but no announcement of any upcoming face to face budget talks. earlier the president told the business round table that a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff could be reached quickly if republicans drop their opposition to raising tax rates on the wealthy. and in an interview on cnbc, timothy geithner says the gop is making a little bit of practice, but the white house is absolutely ready to go over the cliff if tax rates on the top 2% don't rise. >> our obligation is first do no harl. we need to lift that threat over the economy. and now as part of that, we'd like to put in place as i said a carefully designed mix of reforms to put our fiscal balance in the path of sustainability. as long as there is recognition by the other side that those rates will go up, we think we can reach an agreement on the set of reforms as i said that will be good for the economy. >> republicans were quick to hit back. orrin hatch called them stunning and irresponsible, but there may be more cracks in the ranks. "washington post" reports some moderate and conservative republicans
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Dec 3, 2012 6:00pm EST
they are or maybe how stupid they are and to the gop, obama's re-election clearly meant nothing at all. it's almost as if neither side realizes how many people are simply just playing for dinner here, trying to put dinner on the table. now i got to deal with this morass in washington. while i'm optimist thak if congress and the president canceled vacations, remember, no vacation without legislation and stayed to avert the cliff. i'm worried that they're sworn to not compromise. i'm worried that rising above is anathema to democrats and repugnant to the republicans as the phrase, grower, hide your ears, higher taxes. here's the bottom line. a new school which says the cliff jump won't be that bad has now entered the fray. i'm still hoping we don't go over the cliff. but i can't be sang win if we do. i think it means that the stock market will get hammered even as it might bounce back if the austerity is lifted by a dreaded, hated compromise that both sides seem to despise. i have a list of ten stocks that would be the bass-backers. you got to stay tuned for those. but it would be a bounce-back. let'
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Dec 7, 2012 6:00am EST
to owe voter i-owvert i. the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. president obama twice before has made declarative statements about what he's not willing to do. and frankly, all we've heard from the white house is what they're not willing to do. so the president has signed the it tension of these rates in the past. i think the underreported story in all of this drama are senate democrats that are wringing their hands and avoiding eye contact. >> mcconnell would have produce the brought it up not just as an amendment. >> we're too busy today, forget it. >> they can't pass it in their own house. >> so here is the question. the operative question is does this administration really want to take to us $22 trillion? is that really where they want to go? because that's the pathway. and if they do, aren't we better to deal with this right now? this doesn't get any better the longer we wait. when you have the speaker saying we're willing to move, our movement is to put revenue on the table -- >> are you saying a bucket of crazy is better than the long term implications? >> that'
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Dec 4, 2012 3:00pm EST
, that one day that you actually have president obama and boehner come out on the white house lawn saying they're announcing some kind of a deal, you're probably going to see a sharp rebound on the back end of it. you certainly don't want to miss out. >> jeff, what's the third thing you do? buy cans of tuna fish? >> no, i think you have to watch it. the one thing i would disagree with is i don't like dividend payers right now. i think this idea of rushing to these special dividends could come back to actually backfire on some of these companies if they're not putting their cash to good use. it's almost like they're trying to bar the door to keep investors from going out. i'm a little afraid there. i'm also afraid of munis here. on the back end of this, there's a good chance munis could lose their tax-exempt status. that could cause some problems. they've had great run here. i think they're very susceptible to talks coming from the fiscal cliff. >> i think if they took the tax-exempt status away, we'd all be in trouble. >> then what do you do? >> it's a horrible thing as far as local gover
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Dec 5, 2012 3:00pm EST
owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that view that they should give into what the president is suggesting, at least temporarily, and continue to negotiate on the rest because there's a lot of political pain here for republicans if we do get to the point where we go over the cliff because of those higher tax rate pateryers, guys. >> all right, eamon. thank you. >> the talk continues, but none of it face to face. be sure to catch a live interview with on
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Dec 5, 2012 4:00pm EST
is under extreme pressure since president obama is definitely going to be seeing a wealthy tax added to it. on the economic news, little light tomorrow with initial claims at about 390,000, but the big story is really friday as we look to the jobs report. we believe that the effect of the payroll will be at 50,000 range due to the effect of hurricane sandy which could put our unemployment up to an 8% rate. >> all right. we'll be watching that. thanks very much to you both. we appreciate it. of course we'll be looking at this market and whether or not it loses the steam come the big rally today. ticktock, ticktock on the fiscal cliff. my thoughts on the story from timothy geithner. guess what, folks. i think we're going over the cliff. back in a moment. are system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unite
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Dec 6, 2012 12:00pm EST
that yesterday speaker boehner and president obama held a phone call, it was said to be about 20, 28 minutes in length but neither side has leaked what happened on that phone call. the house republicans are not leaking, the white house just within the past hour said it's not going to tell reporters what was discussed, that's probably an encouraging sign that negotiations are taking place. last week we saw that they had a proposal and immediately house republicans leaked the white house proposal and then republicans went out of their way to say they were laughing at that proposal, now they're not leaking, that's probably a sign of some real deal making but nonetheless harry reid the senate democratic leader was on the floor within the past hour or so and he kept the pressure up on republicans. take a listen. >> the plan for the republicans to face reality, there's enough writing on the wall. >> you get the sense here guys that democrats feel like they have the upper hand, there is some dealmaking behind the scenes. what that dealmaking is we don't yet know and when it could yield some resolut
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Dec 6, 2012 3:00pm EST
and evolving story. >>> also, the ceo of accounting giant recently met with president obama. he say miss other ceos in that meeting agreed the tax rates for the wealthy have to rise as part of any fiscal cliff deal. he joins us exclusively later on "the closing bell." stay tuned. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... i'm with scottrade. >>> one of the most bizarre man hunts in recent memory is coming to an end in central
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Dec 6, 2012 4:00pm EST
the chief executives who met with president obama last week and called the conversations, quote, constructive. since then, not much progress has been made. we want to talk more about that exclusively. he's here with me to talk if he still feels that way about fiscal cliff. good to have you on the program. deloitte ceo. thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to get to the president and your meeting and really zero in on the fiscal cliff. before we do that, i want to get to the situation around hewlett-packard and autonomy. of course, hp taking a massive write down on the acquisition of autonomy. ceo meg whitman throwing deloitte under the bus in some sense because the firm was among those charged with examining the books before the deal. what can you tell us about what you did in terms of overseeing the books at autonomy and what do you say now that she's charging this fraud? >> sure, maria. unfortunately for us, that matter has been turn the over to investigation and the authorities. believe it or not, that's one of the things i'm not on the hot seat a
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Dec 7, 2012 6:00pm EST
it." sometimes i feel bad for the speaker, speaker boehner. he's caught between the elected obama and the ufrn elected norquist crossfire. there's not a lot of room to maneuver in that space. tuesday we've got two big investor meetings. first there's dell world. dell world? i like kirby's fourth world. there's dell world. is the risk taken out of this one now? it's down so low. or does it even matter? deleveraged buyout as goldman hinted in its sell-buy research upgrade this week? second, there's a -- how many times can you tell us that monster drinks aren't any worse and may actually be better than a cup of joe from starbucks? let us count the ways that this analyst meeting slash lovefest, they will tell you that there's no better way to preserve your heart than to drink a taste of monster every morning. now, analysts will be plenty hopped up when they come out of this meeting because they'll be recommending this stock in high-speed fashion. next on wednesday we're going to get the results from joy global. here's the company that has the best read on chinese growth of all the com
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Dec 5, 2012 2:00pm EST
passed it. president obama said that he is willing to sign it. so that would be one way to just sort of get some of this panic out of the way and let people deliberate and make some really good choices when we come back in january. >> i want to bottom line it very quickly with jared. i'm going to make you squirm, jared. >> god luck. >>maker the argument for going over it. you have to argue for it. go over the whole thing. what would it be? get our aaa back? >> that may be the only way we can get a responsible fiscal deal. and if that deal begins to take shape in late december, the only way to resolve the cliff may be to temporarily go over the cliff so that tax rates reset and we can get on a bitter fiscal trajectory, and -- and -- they can quickly, as nicole mentioned, reverse some worse effects of that. and in that sense, we've gone over it, but briefly. i'm not for it but that is a resolution that would really use the leverage, the dynamics that are in play right now to finally get us on a more sustainable fiscal path. >> it's not juvenile hall, it is just detention. you eventuall
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Dec 4, 2012 2:00pm EST
on the fiscal cliff, with just 27 days to go and less for the official congressional session. president obama and john boehner making comments on the issue a short time ago and according to our deal meter, there it is, still only a quarter of the way there. we have got all sides of this story covered. john harwood live at the white house. eamon javers on capitol hill and the president's comments. >> the president gave an interview to our colleagues at bloomberg and said a couple of things. first of all, his priorities now trying to break republicans in their resistance to raising the top rate by some amount, a stance republicans have been consistent on. more revenue, question, not higher rates, he is insisting on that as the price of negotiating with him. and he said the reason for that is if you take all of what can be raised in revenue from deductions that is politically realistic, not trying to take away the mortgage deduction in the face of tremendous resistance from consumers and the housing industry, you can only raise about 300 to $400 billion, but i think that is a promising indicatio
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Dec 7, 2012 9:00am EST
of money. >> and jpmorgan upgrades aetna. >> people were supposed to hate them ahead of obama care. stocks doing well. what's coming up? >> i want to do disruptive companies and i watch "squawk." this company is one that has a stove you can put in a couple sticks of wood and starts and generates electricity. you can then charge your ipad, your iphone, you no longer have to be hostage to the grid and they did it -- it caught my eye during hurricane sandy. brooklyn company. the fire department use them. everyone is using them. >> you are doing more private companies with disruptive technology. >> i think that the exciting part of america is we have the world's greatest technology. i want to point it out. many companies are private. >> santelli has -- >> you have to be kidding. rick santelli here. welcome. my goodness. 74 74.5. i had to double-check that one many times. we're coming off numbers at 82.7 for number. 82.6 for october. those are close. the best numbers since the fall of '07. this 74.5 is a really big drop that takes you to the weakest numbers since august when we had a series of
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